Phil Plays 5/10NL Live

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Dated:
Aug 5th, 2011
By:
Phil Galfond
Game:
NLHE
Stake:
Mid Stakes
Teaching Method:
Session Video 3+ Table
Language:
English
Type:
6 Max
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15 Comments
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Phil plays a 4table session of 5/10NL live!

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  • PhilGalfond PhilGalfond Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    554 Posts
    Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    6 Aug 2011 at 1:28am
    Discussion for Phil Plays 5/10NL Live .
  • yummygummy yummygummy Poker Trainee
    41 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    6 Aug 2011 at 8:01am

    I've never heard you talk about 3-betting smail pocket pairs.  How do you feel about it especially oop. 

    Obviously it's good to do it when there's an opponenet who likes to squeeze, but in general I feel like small pp's are hard to play against opponents in position with a wide range.

     

    Deepstack hold em video would be sweet too.

  • EvilSky EvilSky Poker Newbie
    10 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    6 Aug 2011 at 8:14am
    Phil it would be great if you could team up with Punketty or Giggy and do a review or a live session. I think you would complement well with someone who is more familiar with the current state of these games. Always appreciate the 6m NL content tho, even if like you said its a bit of a boring figured out game maybe there is yet some good thoughts you can provide us.
  • PhilGalfond PhilGalfond Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    554 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    6 Aug 2011 at 7:15pm
    yummy- Yeah it used to be something I never did, but 1) I noticed my SB calling range was too PP heavy, and 2) like you said, it's tough when you run into squeezers in the BB. I think 3betting or calling are both fine. From the BB, I'd never 3bet them.
  • jjjean jjjean Poker Newbie
    2 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    6 Aug 2011 at 7:36pm

    Hey Phil. Thanks 4 the video, very interesting as usual. Have lots of questions tho:

    1)I wanted to hear your thought on the check/raising the dry boards in general. I mean I always thought that i dont want to have a raising range there at all, cuz there is no need to protect my hand + opponent is unlikely to have anything, so i better let him hit something with my 2pair+ and since i dont raise my 2pair+ I cant raise anything cuz it would be too exploitable. The problem with this thinking is that then I dont have enough made hands ti check/call with since im not likely to hit a dry board as well as opponent, but he will have the initiative and make a standard cbet making me fold way to big portion of my range (to the point where im being exploited by his simple 100% cbet strategy). And when I sont have a made hand (2 overs or 2 backdoor draws for ex.) I cant profitably check/call either since ppl barrel too much this days. SO this all makes me wanna start check/raising dry flops and/or expand my turn check/raising range. But im not sure how to approach his spots: how can we balance our range in spot where we have so few value combos? Please explain on 2 hands played by you in this video. 1st hand was on 9-22 and 2nd on 30-20. Please answer my question for both hands: 1) Whats your value range (how many combos)? 2) Whats your bluff range (how many combos)? 3) Im not sure that you have a static bluff range in each spot (like on this kind of texture you always do this and that). If Im right how are you balancing your bluffs? I mean since nobody has nothing + the fact that you dont have static range = very likely that you always weighted more towards bluffs (cuz there are more possible bluff combos in your range)? Hope you understand this one cuz im might make some mistakes since my English is not perfect. 4) What is the best hand you expect villain to fold on the flop? 5) How often will you follow on the turn through unimproved (picking no additional equity/scare cards) and what hands you expect them to fold? 6) which scare cards you would always/very frequently try to represent with a 3 barrel and why? for example a T in the 1st hand (since 89 is a decent part of you bluffing range)?

    Sorry, there is a lot of questions but i never saw any complex theory video about check/raising and figured out you are the right guy to ask =) I think it would be just great if you will make a miltipart theory series about check/raising in NLH. It will help a lot of SSNL players to improve their understanding of these spots a lot. If you would like to but dont know how to start and what to include there I will be more than happy to help you with my newbish questions. Just let me know and i will provide you with tons of questions common for SSNL grinders about theory.

    I actually feel that you guys need to more often ask users what videos they would like to see, may be make some kind of votes or polls in the forums and definitely include the info about them in your emails (like you did with coach voting recently). Pretty much every training site has same kind of stuff like live-play, post-audio commentary or member leak-finders. But I cant remember a single one which had asked users "what do u wanna see next guys: a)video on playing out of position b) video on calling 3-bets etc." Sorry again for lots of text. If you are a member that read this till the end and agree with me, plz thumb up or post a comment saying you want a check/raise video too and voting or whatever you want. GL HF guys =)

    EDIT: Tried to break it up for you.

  • JohnDoeB JohnDoeB Poker Newbie
    1 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    6 Aug 2011 at 10:35pm

    Thanks for another great NLHE video, please keep them coming! :-)

    I was actually thinking about the very same thing as "jjjean" while clicking into the comments. I read in your well not long again while re-reading it that you had to work yourself up to your current aggression level since you don't have "that type" of personality(or how you said it:) ). This is definitely a problem I have too.. Like on dry boards both in and out of position I find it hard to have a check-raising range, and to raise a board like 883r IP that you did in the video is just something I would find very hard to do.

    I know against most players that aren't superstars you will probably get away with raising alot of dry boards as they are unlikely to play back at you "enough" of the time, but I am also interested in hearing how you would go about in making your for instance check raising range on a T43r board, or your raising range on a 883r board in position, if you think these are spots where you need to balanced and can't just stab alot.

    Thank you!

  • brtnboarder brtnboarder Poker Newbie
    17 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    7 Aug 2011 at 12:03am
    nice to see you making a NL vid. if you mix limits (2/4+), you should be able to get 4-6 vids of exclusively 250bb tables if you want to get into more postflop spots
  • brtnboarder brtnboarder Poker Newbie
    17 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    7 Aug 2011 at 12:03am
    nice to see you making a NL vid. if you mix limits (2/4+), you should be able to get 4-6 vids of exclusively 250bb tables if you want to get into more postflop spots
  • d0zer1 d0zer1 Poker Newbie
    14 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    7 Aug 2011 at 5:07am
    hey phil, hopefully youll take a moment to answer my "completely unrelated" poker question or give some thoughts on the issue. basically if you were to start playing poker from ssnl/msnl today (and had a very solid base of everything related to NLHE and know a thing or two of PLO), what would your approach on moving up vs masstabling smaller stakes be (sacrificing smaller edges a la folding 86o BVB to a SB open in order to maximize in bigger EV decisions on more tables while kind of capping your improvement as a player and possibly slowing down your moving up). i assume youd probably advise playing PLO too, how aggressively would you suggest someone who needs some base income but would also like to "make it to the top". i know when you first came up games were quite a bit softer, you took a bunch of aggro shots back and forward and always had the chance of finding HU action etc. but its no secret to anyone that its not quite the case anymore and good action is hard to come across, so basically what would your take on the entire moving up/improving/BR management be. game selecting higher stakes and playing less tables always while trying to improve every god damn day seems like the ideal route to go but its also kind of hard to bank a steady income like that given how its inevitable that at some point youll bounce back. long post but hopefully youll take a few minutes, thanks, good luck and good job on the sick upswing after the gross downer at 25-50 : p
  • bannar bannar Poker Newbie
    21 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    7 Aug 2011 at 8:45am
    are you living on the beach now? the background noise sounds amazing with the QJ hand (huge overbet on the river) - given that we cant have any air in our range. What do you think is the better option: a) checking, to represent a weak pair like JT or 88 in hopes that he tries to bluff you. b) betting extremely small in hopes of being looked up by any sort of showdown value If you think b) could you please explain to me why betting a standard amount would be better? I always have trouble in these spots where "i almost always have the best hand but i cant represent air"
  • PhilGalfond PhilGalfond Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    554 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    7 Aug 2011 at 5:03pm

    With regards to dry boards, I prefer to play my hands more aggro on dry boards... both my strong hands and my bluffs.  I of course will slowplay some, and float occasionally, but I want to be able to bluff the dry boards at a fairly high frequency.  To do so, I need to play my value hands just as fast.

     

  • yassel yassel Poker Newbie
    9 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    8 Aug 2011 at 8:53pm

    Hi Phil,  I really have a hard time understanding the river jam at 25:30. You have QJs in the bb, you call his CO open. Flop comes KQ7r you c/c, turn Q ck ck and the river is a J and you jam.

    I understand that we never have air on this particular river, since all straight draws got their. Without any history, i like to check/raise this river because he's gonna value bet any Kx (not sure but he splits with almost any K of our calling range), any Q (unlikely given his flop cbet + his turn check though) and other hands like aces or straights. And i would turn my AJo/TJs hands into a bluff a very high percentage of the time given that we never have air and we have a decent amount of straight and boat combos.

    If I expect him not to vbet Kx i like to bet 1/3 pot with my entire value range, expecting him to call with his kings and raise straights/Qx and giving us a great 3b river bluff spot given that his range is capped and we can definitely have a boat. So i would either check or bet 1/3 pot. When we shove I really don't see him calling us with worse than a boat (that he "never" has given his turn check), even AT has a very hard time calling this river but would certainly vbet. It feels like even c/c is better than overbetting in this spot in a vacuum...

  • Becks777 Becks777 Poker Newbie
    13 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    10 Aug 2011 at 2:49pm

    Hey Phil,

     

    min 11 you 3bet 89s vs. CO and cbet around half pot. Would you consider betting bigger on the Flop, about 170 into 230, since it is draw heavy and then overbetjam the turn on a blank?  On the Turn we would have an SPR of around 1.4-1.5. I heard you say in a previous video that you should have a jamming range on the Turn with this kinda SPR. We could balance this by shoving draws.

    Thanks in advance.

  • berbel berbel Poker Newbie
    1 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    12 Aug 2011 at 6:16am
    Hi, live videos are not bad, but i think the recorded ones are better because you have more time to discuss the plays, especially in the situations that you could either fold/call/raise. Also is better when you misplay a hand, as you can give a second thought when recording... but your videos are great anyway :)
  • SpewUngar SpewUngar Poker Newbie
    1 Posts
    Re: Phil Plays 5/10NL Live
    6 Nov 2011 at 10:17am
    Far fewer edge!! lol You should re-title this video "Phil Plays the far fewer edge 5/10NL Live"

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