Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)

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Dated:
Jan 14th, 2011
By:
Phil Galfond
Game:
NLHE
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High Stakes
Teaching Method:
Concept Video
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English
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Phil's new edition of Philosophy discusses range exploitation do's and don'ts.

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  • PhilGalfond PhilGalfond Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    554 Posts
    Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 1:10am
    Discussion for Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5).
  • LLudvig LLudvig Poker Newbie
    2 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 2:21am
    Digesting. Probably gonna earn me another BB/100 for each time I watch it. Made me think about the game like I used to, before grinding took it's toll. And I don't even play HU. Standout series. Well worth the BFP membership alone. Brilliant.
  • MoniesRemovalPLC MoniesRemovalPLC Poker Apprentice
    239 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 3:21am
    first one of tjhese ive watched and its opened up a new area in my brain thx
  • nakedmom nakedmom Poker Newbie
    37 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 3:39am
    best video out there! 4 sure! cmon guys dont post it on pokertorrents and we can be rich :P
  • sidey1 sidey1 Poker Newbie
    22 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 3:51am
    Kinda wish you didn't post the spreadsheet at the end =/
  • nakedmom nakedmom Poker Newbie
    37 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 4:48am
    btw this is great philosophy: always looking for the free direction, the free space. that makes this video so great, imo. thx a lot Phil.
  • Corpsebean Corpsebean Poker Newbie
    1 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 6:15am
    Excellent Video, thank you.
  • skrapperas skrapperas Poker Newbie
    1 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 7:22am
    hey phil, im on my biggest pokerpause ever, just cause I really enjoy watching your vids more than actually playing.... I guess what I like about poker most is thinking and learning, and now I can take my time and without stress enjoy the aha-experienses that I get from almost everything you guys put out here.... The hole philosophy-serie is great and easy to comprehend, this one I think is the best so far tho.... thanks a lot for some amazing work - maby one day Ill teach you music in return :)
  • halvadron halvadron Poker Newbie
    105 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 10:21am
    many thx for Phil
  • ccps25i ccps25i Poker Newbie
    1 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 1:36pm
    great vid, this is what i signed up for
  • PhilGalfond PhilGalfond Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    554 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 1:47pm
    Thanks for the positive feedback, guys. Videos like this take 5x as long as regular vids, so it's nice when they're appreciated. I'll be gone for the weekend, but happy to respond to any questions after then.
  • pokerswans pokerswans Poker Newbie
    7 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 4:28pm
    hi phil great video thank you. i have a kind of off-topic question... how did you get hold of that full tilt hand replayer version which you use in this video? is it just available for download somewhere?
  • Juan_C Juan_C Poker Newbie
    10 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 5:06pm
    Wow, wow, wow!!! Great video, I know you always emphasize being aware of your opponents (and our) range, and I've been thinking about it, but this video made the concept much clearer, easy to understand, and easier to apply. Thank you!
  • KatoyOwnedU KatoyOwnedU Poker Newbie
    18 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 8:08pm
    Nice vid, Same question than Pokerswans about the FTP replayer !
  • Jaydey Jaydey Poker Newbie
    2 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Jan 2011 at 8:24pm
    I think the best video I've seen. As proof, the spreadsheet at the end seems obvious now, but some of the points wouldn't have occurred to me before.
  • Iwanttolearn Iwanttolearn Poker Newbie
    4 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    16 Jan 2011 at 2:22pm
    I am one of those players that you mentioned that has a somewhat profitable way of playing but who is not actually thinking very far. I guess this video made me realise more then ever that i really know very very little about poker and about all the things that i should be thinking about. This will be the year that i will learn to play poker, thanks Phil.
  • konstantinos konstantinos Poker Newbie
    5 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    16 Jan 2011 at 8:14pm
    amazing video, ty Phil
  • MadBoy MadBoy Poker Trainee
    81 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    17 Jan 2011 at 12:25pm

    Incredible great vid -> will make me in the future think much more about ingame and offgame how to exploit Villain`s "another" ranges...^^

    Thank you very much, rly fantastic work;)

    One more or less offtopic question or at least not rly related to the topic of this video:

    Min. 6: Example (T6s):

    When we would imagine that this is 6max in a BTNvsBigB-scenario where ranges are of course much more narrow than HU -> hence C/R-ranges are also more narrow (maybe TPGK-hands, NutFDs, Combodraws, sets and some Bluffcombos with (Backdoor)EQ)

  • kino9797 kino9797 Poker Newbie
    44 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    17 Jan 2011 at 6:52pm
    Loved it Phil. Helps us think as we go instead of trying to replay hands in our heads. I really liked the chart at the end. What about posting a chart with 15 or 20 scenarios, but leave the answers blank. Let the members download it, then post the answers in a video with explanation? Also, a personal question. I don't use many of the online tools which you refer to often in your videos, tracking player stats, calculating odds and pot equity. How important do you think this is to do. I have a good math understanding, and take player notes. Is it worth it, or moreso, important to use Sharkscope, and sites like Pokertracker?
  • Cashcid_Linc Cashcid_Linc Poker Newbie
    23 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    18 Jan 2011 at 1:31pm
    thanks for this, great and helpful video.
  • VVhiteKnight VVhiteKnight Poker Newbie
    3 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    18 Jan 2011 at 7:00pm
    big fan of 30min videos!!!
  • nickt19 nickt19 Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    18 Jan 2011 at 11:41pm
    I didn't watch it yet, but will this strategy work for sit n go's?
  • greatimes greatimes Poker Newbie
    22 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    23 Jan 2011 at 1:20am
    Brilliant!
  • shizzle007 shizzle007 Poker Newbie
    7 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    24 Jan 2011 at 7:18am
    Phil, thanks for the vid. Vs someone checkraising a lot and balanced on Q63ssd, do you advocate cbetting 77 (with the intention of barreling for value) and J7dd (with the intention of barreling as a bluff a lot)? Doesn't it get suck to get raised of those hands 25-30% of the time? Wouldn't we rather check back J7 and give ourself the ability to hit a J, 7, or a diamond? Same question for hands like KsJ (every A, K, J, T, spade improves our hand on the turn). I tend to check back a lot vs frequent checkraises, with a cbet% of probably around 40 or 50 (all the hands that are happy vs a checkraise, and all the pure air/hands that don't improve on a lot of turns) but checking back the hands with backdoor draws. Ofcourse it sucks when the turn comes a 2, they donk and I have to fold, but a lot of the time I improve on the turn and can play fairly well. I guess I'm asking 'do you think the loss you take when he checkraises you when you have a hand with potential that has to fold is less than the amount you win when he checkcalls you with his weak range (or folds in the J7 case)?' Which you probably do, considering you'd cbet 77 and J7dd, but just checking.
  • ripwalk ripwalk Poker Newbie
    10 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    24 Jan 2011 at 8:53pm
    I love the philosophy series. It's so so interesting and can be watched on occasions where I just don't have the focus for a 4 tabling live commentary.
  • dcpublius dcpublius Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    7 Feb 2011 at 1:46am
    This is absolutely excellent. I never looked at it from this perspective.
  • davisimo davisimo Poker Newbie
    9 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    8 Feb 2011 at 11:31pm

    The philosophy videos are the best nl videos online for sure. I really enjoy the theory stuff more than sweat videos, even if they take a lot longer they are definitely appreciated!

     

    Do you think you or a bfp coach could do a theory style video on turning made hands in to bluffs? These spots have become a lot more en vogue in the past 12 months or so with a lot of the threads on 2+2 in midstakes etc being people trying to find spots to do it.

  • Gswaggg Gswaggg Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    10 Feb 2011 at 3:41pm

    as with all your philosphy vids, this was awesome Phil, what i signed up for. 

    2 questions:

    1. for the example of playing against the guy who has a small yet balanced turn betting range, one of the adjustments was to call the flop lighter. How do we play against this guy once we've called the flop with some weak showdown value, the turn goes check/check, we check the river and he bets (and his river betting range is pretty balanced)?

    In other words, if he's betting the river with his strong hands that he checked the turn with and betting some bluffs and giving up with others, is there any way to exploit that or do we just have to call sometimes and fold others?

    2. Would taking a check/call flop, lead turn line with a balanced range have merit against this guy?

    Thank you in advance, Phil

  • indomitable indomitable Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    11 Feb 2011 at 8:01am
    Phil, i have few questions for you: 1) In your chart at the end of the vid against guy, who 3bets unpolarized range - tip "fold flops in 3b pots on high card boards" - does include A,K only or also Q,J? 2) What range would you 4bet for value against before mentioned guy? 3) How do we adjust to guy who 3bets mostly trash hands and suited connectors, but calls with hands like AJ,KQ and maybe AA,KK sometimes?
  • yotengoco0kies yotengoco0kies Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    11 Feb 2011 at 12:49pm
    phil please listen to the comment about publishing a chart certain blanks ommited and then maknig a video on it. I feel like this would be extremely helpful for many HUPLO players such as myself because it is an amazing way to help identify leaks. It also would help immensely in piecing together information in ways that are very useful in situations encountered every day on the tables. as an aside this was an AMAZING video, please do more of these. p.s. i dont know if you remember but we met in vegas on day 4 of the main event, u told me that 4betting wider to increase variance in huplo against an opponent who is 3betting a ton may not work well. I decided not to pay much attention and ended up going on the biggest downswing of my life. If we ever talk in person again ill be sure to follow your advice a little more strictly
  • wotevah wotevah Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    14 Feb 2011 at 1:30am
    What about people that balance this ranges? What can you do about them? I would like a more advanced video about what u do with people that balance this ranges.
  • pdominski pdominski Poker Newbie
    4 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    15 Feb 2011 at 5:21pm
    Nice vid. I wish this was the way I thought about every hand. There has to be a way to get in this pattern. Thinking about metacognition, maybe we could develop a strategy to consider during in the moment decisions. I used to use hold em manager to detail where a player's tendencies were way outside the norm. I would then paste those in the player notes. Too time consuming though. There may be a way to create a study tool as some have suggested. I agree with not letting these concepts out of the blue fire community.
  • twentyfivefitty twentyfivefitty Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    23 Feb 2011 at 2:09am
    Phil this is outstanding! I'll post some meaningful input next time, but tonight I'll let my adderall do the talking; After you solve poker, please cure aging :P
  • piondor piondor Poker Newbie
    7 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    11 Mar 2011 at 12:39pm
    Probably the best vid I've ever seen.
  • pokerddd pokerddd Poker Newbie
    4 Posts
    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    24 Mar 2011 at 4:14am
    At the 6:24-6:27 minute mark of this video, Phil states that you can discount sets from your opponent's range. My question is why? I asked this question on the forum to no avail.
  • CrazyBlue CrazyBlue Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    16 May 2011 at 2:05pm
    thx a lot Phil !!! great video
  • ILIKEPOKER ILIKEPOKER Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    8 Jul 2011 at 6:00am
    Good video. It's something I vaguely understood from watching great players but videos like this are great at clearly and simply defining such crucial concepts. The more I know the more I realise I know nothing. Thanks a lot.
  • gdbluff gdbluff Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    26 Oct 2011 at 3:37am
    could we please hav some philosophy PLO!!! such a great series and imo what makes BF stand out from the rest!
  • felipepiv felipepiv Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    7 Nov 2011 at 1:20pm
    I think this might have been the best video I`ve ever seen. And I`ve seen a LOT of videos, from a LOT of different trainning sites. I would love to see more Philosophy videos, this is by far the best video series ever made, and it`s been a while. Thanks a lot for this Phil. Philosophy episode 6 ftw!
  • cardshark cardshark Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    1 Feb 2012 at 11:05pm
    he talks to so much and rambles its hard to keep up with what he saying. he goes into so much detail it actually makes it sound more difficult.Then i try to play like he says and i get crushed every single time. Its confusing me.
  • cardshark cardshark Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    1 Feb 2012 at 11:33pm
    im going to have to rewatch the video see if i can get the hang of this.
  • cardshark cardshark Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    2 Feb 2012 at 12:15am
    what i dont understand the videos is betting into a player like that whos aggressive on a board you know they love to raise. so why would you bet with a pair of 6s on a draw heavy board and over card when you know for sure hes going to raise. 10 2 3 flop, 9 2 2 or 3 4 8. They raise every time because they have usually 2 over cards or a pair and over card and they know there hand can improve and get folds from ace high, and small pocket pairs and even like over cards. Thats what i dont understand he still bets in the video and folds to the raise. If you know there going to raise why lead? Is that just for balance with your made hands? Against players like that you really dont need balance. Your strong hands they will still raise those boards. Its like addiction for them low board they believe they have to raise.
  • cardshark cardshark Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    2 Feb 2012 at 12:18am
    I play 9 max at casino for a living and i crush almost every day. I went almost 2 months without a losing session before. And all you do is wait for a big hand. They hold on with any pair, any over cards and any draw. There is just no value in betting against these kind of players unless you either have a lot of equity or like a hand thats crushing there range like your ak top pair and they aq top pair. And everything else like middle i check back to pot control and bluff catch. You don't need balance against these players they look at the board and there absolute range then any sort of relative range from what i seen. So when you bet the flop in the example and you know hes going to raise and you fold its very irritating to watch and i dont understand leading against that opponent.
  • cardshark cardshark Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Philosophy (5)
    3 Feb 2012 at 2:15am
    I understand it now i just have to rewatch it a few times. What if a player mixes up how he plays really well. like tom dwan i seen him check the nuts 3 times check raise the river. Or he will have top pair and check back the flop or soemtimes lead the flop and check the turn. Or i seen him go for check raise on teh flop with air. his lines are always different. Say you cant really pick up a read on what he has during play. If there really tricky do you just go back to basics and play more of a abc style since you can't get a read on them and just bet when you have a hand and give up when you dont while hes trying all these tricky creative things or do you start betting and raising them to see where your at in a hand? Or do you just get really aggressive and go into attack mode like isildur and put him into guessing decisions? Sometimes im trying to figure out what there range is, what they are trying to do and once i figure it out they switch gears and they have different hand ranges and now there bluff raising me on the turn and the pattern changes. then i get confused on what my game plan is. I seen some guys start off nitty then get ultra aggressive and some guys start off aggressive and get nitty. Or some play different after they won money and get more aggressive and some get more nitty. I saw phil ivey do it this guy i think his game was deterimis or something like that. The guy limped every hand called any raise and saw flops. He beat ivey out of 300 k. Then ivey came back next day and won it all back.i can't believe someone can beat the best playing in the world by limping 100 percent of hands and calling 100 percent. It didn't make sense to me but i watched it he beat ivey basically post flop but 2nd time around ivey completely crushed him. it just goes to show its not easy to adjust especially when they are tricky or style you haven't really scene. So i was wonder what best method to take while your trying to figure them out.

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