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Niman's When To Chase

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Dated:
Aug 17th, 2012
By:
Niman Kenkre
Game:
NLHE
Stake:
High Stakes
Teaching Method:
Concept Video
Language:
English
Type:
Full Ring
2686 Views
12 Comments
9.1510
(13 Ratings) 9.15

In his return to BlueFire, Niman breaks down the concept of when to "chase"! 

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Comments

  • NimanKenkre NimanKenkre Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    1191 Posts
    Niman's When To Chase
    17 Aug 2012 at 9:20am
    Discussion for Niman's When To Chase.
  • bhtopspin bhtopspin Poker Newbie
    21 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    17 Aug 2012 at 2:57pm
    Good to see you back!!
  • DavidAsecas DavidAsecas Poker Newbie
    3 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    17 Aug 2012 at 9:25pm
    Niman: The concept of the video is good. But, you don't have to repeat yourself 30 times when making a point. This video could have been done in 15 minutes instead of 50 without losing anything valuable.
  • mmecca00 mmecca00 Poker Newbie
    2 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    17 Aug 2012 at 10:09pm
    Thanks again Niman. Love all your stuff. Maybe this is kind of an elementary point but its relevant to the 54s hand where you turn a 5. I guess not only do you have showdown value against his missed draws you also have 5 additional (hidden) outs against his over pair/top pair type hands which will likely bet or at least check/call the river. Thats equity that shouldn't be overlooked.
  • NimanKenkre NimanKenkre Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    1191 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    18 Aug 2012 at 12:43am
    mmecca, although it is true that I do have five outs against overpair/top pair type hands with my paired five, the operative concept here is that you have reasonable showdown value WITHOUT IMPROVING. That is the first question that you need to ask yourself when determining whether or not you can chase your draw. The additional five out equity, while certainly important in calculating your overall EV of a call is an ancillary point.
  • NimanKenkre NimanKenkre Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    1191 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    18 Aug 2012 at 12:45am
    David, I'm sorry that you felt that way. I was trying to repeat the important points, because they are very important concepts and I wanted to emphasize them. I guess I might have overdone the repetition.
  • koshanahan koshanahan Poker Newbie
    14 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    3 Nov 2012 at 8:02am
    niman, pls do not hesitate to repeat whatever you feel is necessary and comes naturally to you =) we understand why it is being repeated and appreciate your thought out reasoning.. also if an intelligent, well-respected, highly-regarded, successful poker pro/coach (not to mention millionaire) explains concepts/reasoning, i listen .. in fact, that's why we're all here =)
  • NimanKenkre NimanKenkre Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    1191 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    3 Nov 2012 at 1:23pm

    Koshanahan, thanks for the positive feedback:  I really appreciate it.  I do understand David's point though, and having rewatched the video, I do agree that I might have overdid the repetition a bit.  I really value all constructive feedback - positive and negative.  Thanks again!

  • koshanahan koshanahan Poker Newbie
    14 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    6 Nov 2012 at 9:55pm

    you're very welcome =) _________________ niman, what are your thoughts on one or two interview/conversational style videos where you and another BlueFirepoker pro/staff discuss thoughts on various topics e.g. poker, life in general, interesting goals, current affairs, philosophy etc etc____________________ I think it would be pretty interesting as well as something new to have a conversational series going between the Bluefirepoker team/staff ... do you have any thoughts on this? also do you have any current blogs going on? cheers =)

  • mischkoville mischkoville Poker Newbie
    48 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    14 Nov 2012 at 7:24pm

    I guess a player like niman can repeat as often as he wants to point out what we have to remember .For some of us it`s easier when heard 5 times than only 1 time !!

    ofc this is very basic here and that`z why david feel there are to much repetition ,but when sthe suff gets more complicated you would wish he repeated even more :-)

    just my 2 cents..

  • Broomcorn Broomcorn Poker Newbie
    11 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    6 Dec 2012 at 2:59am
    Just a sentence; the best video and the most educating video I have ever watched!!!
  • BlaneJackson BlaneJackson Poker Newbie
    2 Posts
    Re: Niman's When To Chase
    8 Feb 2013 at 3:52pm
    Are the 3 considerations in when to chase as applicable to tournaments as they are to cash games?

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