Neil's 25NL Session (2)

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Dated:
Mar 5th, 2011
By:
Neil Gewirtz
Game:
NLHE
Stake:
Micro Stakes
Teaching Method:
Session Video 3+ Table
Language:
English
Type:
6 Max
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7 Comments
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Neil breaks down the games at 25NL on FTP.

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  • NeilGewirtz NeilGewirtz Bluefire Pro Poker Trainee
    185 Posts
    Neil's 25NL Session (2)
    6 Mar 2011 at 1:19am
    Discussion for Neil's 25NL Session (2).
  • supramayn supramayn Poker Newbie
    30 Posts
    Re: Neil's 25NL Session (2)
    14 Mar 2011 at 9:04pm
    Good video... I have a question about the K9 hand (30:34) on the river if opponent bet out how much would you be willing to call?
  • NeilGewirtz NeilGewirtz Bluefire Pro Poker Trainee
    185 Posts
    Re: Neil's 25NL Session (2)
    20 Mar 2011 at 4:37pm
    I would actually likely be more inclined to call a larger river bet than a smaller one in that hand. Since all the draws missed a large bet would look bluffy to me, where a small one would look much more like a blocking bet for value with a hand of similar strength to the one my opponent actually showed up with.
  • yotengoco0kies yotengoco0kies Poker Newbie
    3 Posts
    Re: Neil's 25NL Session (2)
    8 Apr 2011 at 10:57pm
    hey neil. i have a question concerning the spot near the end of the video where you (were about to) 4bet AQ against hot sauce, who was 3betting frequently on the btn. it seems to me that there's almost no difference between 4bet bluffing a hand like 67ss as opposed to 4betting a medium-strength preflop hand like AQo. i'd expect most opponents to either fold or 5bet in this situation, and in the rare spots when called, i'm not so sure the equity of 67ss against their calling range is that much smaller than AQo. do you advocate 4bet bluffing relatively frequently in these types of situations at these stakes? i would say my default play w/ AQo in this spot would be to flat o.o.p., but your argument against that makes a lot of sense.
  • NeilGewirtz NeilGewirtz Bluefire Pro Poker Trainee
    185 Posts
    Re: Neil's 25NL Session (2)
    9 Apr 2011 at 3:17pm

    Without a post flop read on my opponents I prefer not to flat 3bets oop at 100bb's at all. With a better idea of an opponents range, and how he will play it postflop, flatting with a hand like AQ can be a perfectly fine play. If I 4bet there, it would have been with intentions of getting all in. You are right, 67s does have slightly better equity vs a tight stack off range of QQ+ (sometimes JJ) and AK, but AQ has much better equity if his range is any wider than that, or specifically if he is ever 5bet jamming an Ax type hand or small-med pp as a bluff. 4bet stacking off is +ev in a spot where an opponent is 3bet/folding a lot because of the dead money he puts in every time he folds, even though we are only approx 30% vs his value range when the money actually gets in. Taking slightly the worst of it is ok because of the dead money in the pot, and the assumption that a player aggro enough to get into this dynamic with may be exploiting you if you 4bet/fold hands as strong as AQ. If you have a good enough read of your opponent to know he will never 5bet light at all, and dont feel you can profitably play AQ postflop with a call, using it as a bluff and 4bet folding could be fine, but I would want to have a decent read on my opponent.

  • NeilGewirtz NeilGewirtz Bluefire Pro Poker Trainee
    185 Posts
    Re: Neil's 25NL Session (2)
    9 Apr 2011 at 3:17pm

    (oops double posted)

  • yotengoco0kies yotengoco0kies Poker Newbie
    3 Posts
    Re: Neil's 25NL Session (2)
    10 Apr 2011 at 2:00am
    ah, gotcha. the vast majority of regs at nl25 are playing really snug preflop in these types of situations and it's rare whenever the money gets in 100 bbs deep with any other hand than AA, KK, QQ, and AK. if that type of dynamic ever started where i was 4betting a lot and expected my opponent to 5bet jam on the light side, i can see for sure why AQ is a much better hand to stack off with than something like 67s. i do think this type of dynamic is super rare at nl25, but if they're folding to a ton of 4bets, i guess it's safe to say 4bet bluffing with even the bottom portion of your range is very profitable, right? i've always thought this, and used to 4bet bluff a ton at nl50 but i've been reluctant to deviate from anything that isn't abc poker at the micros. what are your thoughts about 4bet bluffing at these stakes, assuming your opponent isn't 5bet jamming with anything besides AA, KK, QQ, and AK? Thanks.

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