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Neil reviews a few interesting hands to discuss from his most recent 100NL session.
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Hey Neil, good video and I had questions on two of the hands.
10/8dd at around 11:30. Isn't this a perfect iso hand pre-flop vs a poster/limper? OOP its a hand that you are going to be able to barrel a ton of flops, and just raise c-bet a lot and take it down, where as just checking, you can get yourself into some difficult situations vs a completely random range, plus you don't have the pre-flop lead with a very nice flopping/barreling hand. You didn't even mention isolating pre so I wanted to just confirm that this was indeed a good spot to iso? Seems like it plays a lot better and you make more money doing it that way.
Next hand was QQ at around 43:00. I just can't help but feel you played this hand really weird. Pre, if this guy is never folding, and I think the raise size was perfect, and should have been mentioned. I dunno if this is 100% standard raise size, but 5 seems to big, and 3.50-4.00 seems normal, but vs this guy you want max value obviously since he is a huge fish.
I just can't help but feel the turn decision to check was wrong. You don't mention his raising tenancies, but since he is a huge calling station I can only assume he is mostly calling with draws, and not raising them. We can clearly see his range is very very wide, and I think he can call with many many worse hands on the turn that are just abysmal to let go check check. Again, I am going to assume that this guy is passive, and checks back his draws more often than not, but he is pretty much always calling with A/2, A/3, A/4, 6/3, 6/4, 3/4, any two diamonds, any pocket pair 22-88 (assuming he raises 99+ pre at minimum) and any 2/3, 2/4. I think this range outweighs his 10's that you can c/r and get it in vs, so I feel like you are gaining more value over-all by betting here, and there is no gaurantee you even get it in vs a 10, but I do think you get value on the turn from all of his drawing/showdown hands that aren't going to bet as much.
If your plan was to c/r, then all of those hands that would call a bet but fold to a raise you get the same value from if he calls (just that he obviously gets to see a river) but I think that outweights the times where it goes c/c and he just relinquishes all of his value for free. The other thing is its really hard to get value on the river from anything we beat. We either check and hope he bluffs here, or bet and try to get value from a really small part of his range (any 2, or small pp). Then our line basically is bet flop, check turn, check river, which is super weak imo concidering our hand vs his range.
Even if he folds a hand like K/J here we aren't really that upset to get rid of his low equity, but I think trying to squeeze out an extra bet from this guy by a broadway hand is just to ambitious compared to all the free equity we are giving his range.
Having bet the turn, I would then pretty well check call any river, as said he has a ton of draws, and will most likely turn these into bluffs, or at least never call a bet. I think he has more air in his range on brick rivers than show-down hands, so c/c is more likely the right line. On non-bricks we don't want to get raised, and he still has lots of missed draws, and may even bet worse just because he is a fish, so c/c is still pretty manditory on pretty well all rivers, possibly not Ad depending on bet sizing.
I just think the problem in the logic here was saying air is the vast majority of his range, where I don't really think it is. If he is a calling station, and is more on the passive side, (which it seems he is) I really beleive we need to bet for value/protection on the turn. I just don't think he turns his hands into bluffs enough in this spot, and calls with tons of worse hands that are very bad to let check. I also think his air hands on the turn don't bet a high enough % of the time anyways compared to the free equity you give him, and he may even raise a 10 some % of the time so we can still get max value from a 10 anyways.
Ill just say I rarely play cash game, so lmk if I am an idiot haha. However, I do kind of think I am somewhat on track with this one being played wrong.
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