JP at 200NL 6max (3)

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Dated:
Oct 3rd, 2011
By:
JP Zdancewicz
Game:
NLHE
Stake:
Small Stakes
Teaching Method:
Session Video 3+ Table
Language:
English
Type:
6 Max
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5 Comments
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JP finishes his series reviewing his play at 200NL.

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  • JPZdancewicz JPZdancewicz Bluefire Pro Poker Trainee
    188 Posts
    JP at 200NL 6max (3)
    4 Oct 2011 at 1:21am
    Discussion for JP at 200NL 6max (3).
  • ghetifal ghetifal Poker Trainee
    80 Posts
    Re: JP at 200NL 6max (3)
    6 Oct 2011 at 3:26am
    13:20 in, can't you setmine with 22 against an opponent who's only seeming to raise QQ+ preflop? Wouldn't you assume you have decent implied odds with 11.5 SPR when he's almost always going to have an overpair? You are going to lose 6 on the call almost 89% of the time and win $10 about 11% when you hit your set, so you need to stack him ($184 behind) 20% of the time you hit your set break even. This doesn't include the times you get set over set, but that is very rare. I guess this also doesn't account for A high flops, which either will set over set you or else kill your implied odds against KK and QQ (but if he has AK in his range it can actually be a great card, so I don't know how to weight its affect on implied odds). Regardless, if this isn't enough, what would you need to know before you consider set-mining against this reg? Also, when you consider preflop pot odds, do you consider the rake before totaling them? You are getting 11:6 (1.8:1) on a call, but since once you see a flop there will be a rake, do you discount your odds? If he raised 3x giving you 9:4 (2.25:1) would you call? In that case, the really rough approximation where we say we get his stack or nothing says we need to stack him only 12%.
  • ghetifal ghetifal Poker Trainee
    80 Posts
    Re: JP at 200NL 6max (3)
    6 Oct 2011 at 3:27am
    Oops, can't edit video comments (will that be changed in future?) but I meant to say against this player we know is NOT a reg.
  • JPZdancewicz JPZdancewicz Bluefire Pro Poker Trainee
    188 Posts
    Re: Re: JP at 200NL 6max (3)
    6 Oct 2011 at 5:07pm

    ghetifal wrote:

    Oops, can't edit video comments (will that be changed in future?) but I meant to say against this player we know is NOT a reg.

    If you post in the forum and not the video page it lets you edit.

  • JPZdancewicz JPZdancewicz Bluefire Pro Poker Trainee
    188 Posts
    Re: JP at 200NL 6max (3)
    6 Oct 2011 at 5:12pm

    As for your question, while i don't think either calling or folding is necessarily a losing play, the benefits of either are marginal at best.  You need to make the decision of how you are likely to play flops you miss in the long-run and I know that I have a hard time folding outright that 88% of the time knowing there are definitely a number of flops that I will be able to win with a lead or a c/r, as well as wanting to balance my ranges with this hand.  As a result I try and go ahead and fold this hand vs someone who I'm not sure I can make fold in alot of those spots, and maybe defend some hands like 86s etc.

    I take on alot of variance with my style of play and I believe that folding pre is a slightly less-variance play, although obviously very marginally.

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