Bubble Factors

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Dated:
Feb 13th, 2013
By:
Clint Losch
Game:
SNG/MTT
Stake:
Small Stakes
Teaching Method:
Concept Video
Language:
English
Type:
Full Ring
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4 Comments
10.0010
(2 Ratings) 10.00

Clint breaks down different bubble factors applicable to SNGs and MTTs.

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  • ClintLosch ClintLosch Bluefire Pro Poker Newbie
    36 Posts
    Bubble Factors
    14 Feb 2013 at 1:15am
    Discussion for Bubble Factors.
  • nelligan nelligan Poker Newbie
    2 Posts
    Re: Bubble Factors
    14 Feb 2013 at 2:00am
    Really interesting. I'm looking forward to watch part 2!
  • Jimbozgrapes Jimbozgrapes Poker Prodigy
    336 Posts
    Re: Bubble Factors
    14 Feb 2013 at 2:02am
    Curious, I pretty much strictly play 6-max hypers where bubble factor is quite small, plus you are always getting very good pot odds so the ranges don't adjust a lot, but it seems to me that this really benefits the all-in player. Someone posted a hand in 2+2 where it was the bubble in an 18-man, and him and the BB were about 20bbs deep, and everyone else had less then 10bigs. He had AK in the sb, and him raise calling was hugely -ev, even if getting 3-bet ATC i believe. The only play he could make here profitably was shove all-in. Pretty crazy IMO, and makes me think that ICM is flawed lol. I realize that it has to do with so much EV being given to all the other players not involved in the hand, and basically just -ev for both big stacks being in that situation, but pretty crazy stuff.
  • ClintLosch ClintLosch Bluefire Pro Poker Newbie
    36 Posts
    Re: Bubble Factors
    21 Feb 2013 at 9:06am
    Yeah Jimbo, that is an area that is often screwed up by most players on the bubble, especially the 9, 18, and 45 mans, where the average bubble factor is generally higher. There are many times where you need to be folding AK because you do not have enough guaranteed equity to justify the call given the ICM considerations. This usually occurs when everyone has 10bb+ stacks, or as you said, 2 big stacks doing battle. Even if someone told you they were shoving 72o, you may still need to fold AK on the bubble depending on the stack distribution. However, I would not say that ICM is flawed. ICM is what it is. Based upon the payouts and number of players left, each chip has a $ value which can be used to determine your total equity in the tournament. Therefore, you need to understand the value of your stack compared to the other stacks, and how much guaranteed equity you need in a given scenario (ie. calling an all in), to compensate for the ICM tax. I learned this stuff, like when I need to fold AK on the bubble, just by playing a ton and constantly throwing these common, yet tough, scenarios into calculators like SNG Wiz. That's really the best way. For anyone reading this, go ahead and put in some sample bubble scenarios, where everyone has equal stacks and you hold AK vs another playing shoving. Start messing around with the shoving ranges, differing stacks, and different SNG formats, to understand how you need to adjust your ranges.

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