***** Hand History for Game 3095152336 ***** (Prima)
$1000.00 USD PL Omaha - Tuesday, January 19, 02:20:25 ET 2010
Table Omaha Heads Up 21 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Dustylove ( $3124.00 USD )
Seat 2: PanGardas ( $1455.00 USD )
Dustylove posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
PanGardas posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to Dustylove [  9d Ad Qs 5s ]
Dustylove raises [$25.00 USD]
PanGardas calls [$20.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, Jd, Qd ]
PanGardas checks
Dustylove bets [$50.00 USD]
PanGardas raises [$160.00 USD]
Dustylove calls [$110.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
PanGardas checks
Dustylove bets [$310.00 USD]
PanGardas calls [$310.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
PanGardas checks
Dustylove bets [$1000.00 USD]

So it's 150bb deep and he can't have the nuts, right? 

Villian is some reg who sits and waits for action, we've played a bit before but not too much and my note said that he was; "hit and runny" so I guess the last session was halfway short. Can't remember much except that he seemed fairly decent, not to aggro and overall a little bit predictable. I'm 80% sure that he's played a lot more omaha then me and he might be something of a bumhunter and play higher, not sure (since no respectable reg quits me in omaha, lol) .

As for image and gameflow I've been winning a fair few pots and turned the match around from initially being down a bi or so, right now I'm up maybe 3bi. I've mostly been getting hands and even though I've bluffed a little bit he hasn't caught me in any big shenanigans and I haven't been super aggro either. He's been c/shoving turns really light (not after c/r flop though) in rr'd pots and that's how I've stacked him most of the time. He hasn't been that much out of line except that but he's obviously done the occasional move. We're 2-tabling and we've probably played maybe 300 hands. He might be a little bit tilted.

Question 1:  Is this standard?  I feel that there are really few hands I can have here that doesn't have a lot of sd-value so I  should bluff a ton with those I  have, right?  My valuerange on the river is probably a bit nitty but A) he doesn't know that and B) I can have the nuts here and  I  would play most every straight combo like this and he probably recogizes that.

2:  How light should I valueshove this? I  assue any straight is a shove, I can't have topset but I  could have some JJ and a few TT 's (not to many though) .

3. Is turn ever a check?
 

don't really see why he can't have the nuts with no freeroll here, also I really think that either u have the best hand-- or he has a hand which is gonna be vvvv hard for him to fold (98, K9, TTKx, the rare AKo, etc)

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Dustylove wrote:

***** Hand History for Game 3095152336 ***** (Prima)
$1000.00 USD PL Omaha - Tuesday, January 19, 02:20:25 ET 2010
Table Omaha Heads Up 21 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Dustylove ( $3124.00 USD )
Seat 2: PanGardas ( $1455.00 USD )
Dustylove posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
PanGardas posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
Dealt to Dustylove [  9d Ad Qs 5s ]
Dustylove raises [$25.00 USD]
PanGardas calls [$20.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, Jd, Qd ]
PanGardas checks
Dustylove bets [$50.00 USD]
PanGardas raises [$160.00 USD]
Dustylove calls [$110.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
PanGardas checks
Dustylove bets [$310.00 USD]
PanGardas calls [$310.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
PanGardas checks
Dustylove bets [$1000.00 USD]

So it's 150bb deep and he can't have the nuts, right? 

Villian is some reg who sits and waits for action, we've played a bit before but not too much and my note said that he was; "hit and runny" so I guess the last session was halfway short. Can't remember much except that he seemed fairly decent, not to aggro and overall a little bit predictable. I'm 80% sure that he's played a lot more omaha then me and he might be something of a bumhunter and play higher, not sure (since no respectable reg quits me in omaha, lol) .

 

As for image and gameflow I've been winning a fair few pots and turned the match around from initially being down a bi or so, right now I'm up maybe 3bi. I've mostly been getting hands and even though I've bluffed a little bit he hasn't caught me in any big shenanigans and I haven't been super aggro either. He's been c/shoving turns really light (not after c/r flop though) in rr'd pots and that's how I've stacked him most of the time. He hasn't been that much out of line except that but he's obviously done the occasional move. We're 2-tabling and we've probably played maybe 300 hands. He might be a little bit tilted.

Question 1:  Is this standard?  I feel that there are really few hands I can have here that doesn't have a lot of sd-value so I  should bluff a ton with those I  have, right?  My valuerange on the river is probably a bit nitty but A) he doesn't know that and B) I can have the nuts here and  I  would play most every straight combo like this and he probably recogizes that.

2:  How light should I valueshove this? I  assue any straight is a shove, I can't have topset but I  could have some JJ and a few TT 's (not to many though) .

3. Is turn ever a check?
 

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1.  I'm not sure its "standard" per say.  I think its something you should be doing some of the time, but i feel like its something observant opponents are going to pick up on.

2.  I think the lightest you can value shove is 89.  I think if you're going to be turning Q5 into a bluff by this river, that would mean that you probably think he's folding QJ, some sets, and possibly 89?  So are you really "value" shoving a set on the river esepcially if you can never have top set in this spot, and probably not even 2nd set most of the time. 

3. I think the turn is a check against players who are check jamming the turn with good frequency.  When you say this player is check jamming turns pretty light, does that mean you're calling a check jam on the turn? 

 I would check the turn here.  He often has a set, which always calls or Jams, and he has some straights or 2pr+draw hands that can c/r you off of a hand with a lot of equity.

That said, I don't hate your turn bet, and I like that you followed it up with a river bet.  You aren't going to have much air in your range given this line.  Hopefully he knows that and can fold his (very likely) set.

Against an very laggy opponent, you can happily reraise to a medium size and get this in on the flop.

It took a while but then I got some really nice replies, thanks guys.

Still not really sure how much I  know about omaha, but do people actually reraise this kind of turns light? Also, I'm not one to fold lightly in hold'em at all  (in fact, the common things almost all regs I  run into IRL  calls me are luckbox and damn station, useally in that order)  but I'm fairly sure I'd need some history or reason to give people a lot of credit before I start to view this as a bluff. But that's probably just me still not getting omaha.