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Happy to see PLO series from you just like always. But I can assure you that the PLO games (at low stakes) are now filled up with lots of preflop passive but postflop pretty aggro players who don't fold to cbets and bluff a lot on later streets and in general play sometimes very tricky. I give you two examples: 1) on the board Q53r93 when the guy did call twice and shipped river, I have bluff catched here in the last 3 months some of the time and I did it with success (although it is always a difficult decision without more reads). I mean you hadn't a Q to bluff catch but I only wanted to point out that his pot leading OTR is not always the nuts like it had been in the past . (On this specific board, most likely I would have folded a Q too cause the flop has so few draws)
2) On the AK8s board when Hero had A765, the turn was a blank 2 and you would have checked flop and turn. But exactly these type of villain like Dokholidej1 seems to be are going to bluff tons of rivers (basically lots of scary rivers, cause they know your range is pretty weak and might contain lots of air) when you check back the turn; and on the flop he is calling with any 8 or K and sometimes even with QQ/JJ and a gutshot/backdoor flush. Therefore I am now barreling this hand vs villains like him 100% of the time , whereas I was taking more passive lines (like you recommend) around 6 months ago. But 6 months ago they haven't been calling in this spot without a flushdraw or top pair.
Sorry another point that I wanted to mention is:
Using Pokertracker 3, one can analyze his entire database and not only specific players. On 700K hands that I have in my database, a double barrel on a blank turn has near 0 fold equity. Therefore on the K8x two tone board 3 Way oop with second nut flushdraw and middlepair, I would rather see at least one street getting checked through. As the villain has one player behind him to act on the flop, I don't think that he is ever going to fold the turn. Only if I knew that someone is floating here very light and with some air in his range, I would continue barreling the tun.
Must make another comment, there are so many spots in this vid which are interesting, next time, I should really take notes before commenting.
In the first hand where you recommend leading 3 Way on 986r with 6679. I am not a fan of this. Even if we have the best hand here very often, but we have practically no nut outs and lots of reversed implied odds when running to 99, 88, 98 (most of the 98 combos have have at least a nut gut shot going with it), straight and a straight draw and I really don't want to get raised whereas I don't mind to see the flop getting checked through and playing a smaller pot. Even if our donk is called, we really don't know where we are at OTT: Slowplayed straight, higher set?
Somehow I cannot edit my posts: Last but not least, 9766 on 986r has no visibility.
Thank you for all the comments, Shahrad! I will certainly keep in mind your observations of the small stakes PLO player pool when I review future vids in the series. I will try to outline strategies for playing against more postflop aggro opponents as well as passive opponents. I will take a look at the specific hands you commented on sometime soon as well.
As for the 986r hand where we have 6679, I disagree with you. While I understand your point about when we run into 88, 99, and 98, we are going to be facing far more hands that will continue but have poor equity against us. There are a lot of hands that have an open-ender or a pair+gutter that will call when we bet but they will not bet themselves. We are going to face some difficult decisions on future streets which is unfortunate, but that will happen even if we don't bet. It is just part of playing OOP (if the btn calls). If we check/call, we will have a very similar situation, but we when we put money in we will generally be up against a stronger range and we will miss value versus the weaker parts of our villains' ranges.
I think it is very important to concern yourself with getting raised in PLO with strong but not nutty hands. It is a concept you can take too far, though, causing you to lose value. I know it has been a problem for me in the past.
Thanks again for your comments!
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