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  • RaisingCain RaisingCain Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    14 Feb 2011 at 2:57pm
    q: 54s hand, where heart rivrs and u fold a pair.... why cant you have/rep flush on rvr... not saying u should but u say u can't and i was confused by that.... his turn bet was small... were odds still so bad that u would have raised or folded that turn with 78h etc. and he'd know that?.... or cant u have a flush here instead of a q or 54d? speaking of 78... u were talking about calling with it oop pf and how that weakens your light 3bet range and forces q5o etc into a polarized range... isnt the answer that sometimes 78 is called, sometimes 3 bet with it, so range is still semi-ok? i realize that even sometimes calling means less chances to3bet it and so affects3bet frequencies but... seems we dont need to autobot hands into one range 100%. no?
  • RaisingCain RaisingCain Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    14 Feb 2011 at 3:20pm
    0human0 seems to do well at that level...,too bad prefontaine wasn't there too... was cool to see an ultra-elite like phil take on some elites and semi-elites. i love to see/hear more about the differences of different levels of players and also hear about general tendencies at various levels of players and blinds... e.g., these guys are doing xyz that even 5/10 guys are not often doing, but nosebleeders like OMG, Durr, Ivey, are doing pqrs that even these 25/50 guys are not. your intensity comment had some of that. i mean, poker is just maximizing ev... a brainless computer program could chunk thru the possible options... but even it would need to know player frequencies and thats what id like to hear more about.... general differences in ranges/responses if you were in spot x against a 5/10 reg vs this 25/50 reg vs a nosebleeder, etc. partly to hear your take on generalizations of the current games (when rvr chkrase bluffs start getting common) but also just to savor the differences between where we are and where the gods play (or the demigods we aspire to play with someday).
  • MadBoy MadBoy Poker Trainee
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    Re: Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    14 Feb 2011 at 4:12pm

    RaisingCain wrote:

    q: 54s hand, where heart rivrs and u fold a pair.... why cant you have/rep flush on rvr...

    B/c I guess he would 2ndBarell mostly FDs here after donkleaded the flop - the same goes of course for Trips+-hands.

    Hence he cannot rep fluhes (which came in) and Trips+ very credibly on the river by turning his weak SD-Valu (which he cannot call b/c of his mentioned reasons) by C/R the river.

  • RaisingCain RaisingCain Poker Newbie
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    Re: Re: Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    14 Feb 2011 at 4:19pm

    MadBoy wrote:

    B/c I guess he would 2ndBarell mostly FDs here after donkleaded the flop - the same goes of course for Trips+-hands.

    Hence he cannot rep fluhes (which came in) and Trips+ very credibly on the river by turning his weak SD-Valu (which he cannot call b/c of his mentioned reasons) by C/R the river.

    ah.... i forgot that he took initiative prior to turn

    tx

  • spanielhead spanielhead Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    15 Feb 2011 at 3:09am
    Re 1010 flat in sb to UTG raiser. I am not a high stakes player so take this fwiw but if the standard open in 25/50 is to 150 in both ante and non-ante games, because of the extra chips in pre- one should be opening lighter in all positions in the ante game. Then if the UTG opener is aware of this and is opening correspondingly lighter, his range should be wide enough that 3-betting with 1010 is correct.
  • Welcome_Back Welcome_Back Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    15 Feb 2011 at 9:05pm
    In the hand The_Eend played where he c/c the turn with KQs: You said that you like a bet more than a call. Don't you think its important to have a c/not-fold range in that spot (in which KQhh would be a great hand to c/c, with blockers to his value calls on the flop and deceptive outs). I think the biggest leak in todays midstakes NLHE games is that people cbet too much or too little OOP in that they don't really balance their checking ranges well enough. In the hand example above you mentioned that it is a good spot to vbet and not a great spot to bluff which basically means that we need to check a decent % of our hands on the turn. And being that the villain has good equity against our stackoff range we need to counter that by c/not-folding an even bigger portion of our checking range. I'd really like some opinions on this.
  • ssslipnssslide ssslipnssslide Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    16 Feb 2011 at 3:10am
    THIS QUESTION IS FOR ANYONE: Ive been playing poker for about 6 years now and i just recently became bothered with a particular concept. this is mostly relevant in a pot that is heads up or a pot that consists of chips that came approx. 50% from your own stack. --its always taught that if pot size is 1 and you bet 1 (as a bluff with 0% equity on the river) that you need this bet to work 50% of the time to be profitable. but what i struggle with on this topic is that you only really profit the % of pot that didnt come from your stack...so you are actually only profiting 0.5 units (in a h/u pot) as opposed to the entire 1 unit. So by this logic it seems that you would need a pot sized bet to work 75% of the time. Profit 0.5bb three times and lose the 1.5bb once. Seems ridiculous...but heres why.... Can anyone disprove this example? Your stack starts at 100bb in a h/u pot, pot size is 10bb by river (so your stack size is 95bb). You bluff 10bb to win 10bb on river and when you win the pot your resulting stack size is 105bb....but when you lose your resulting stack size is 85bb...and checking leaves you with 90bb. Therefore there are only 3 possible outcomes to the entire hand +5bb(successful bluff) or -15bb(unsuccessful bluff), or -5bb (check, give up). If you think about how resulting stack size varies if the bluff works exactly 50% of the time...starting with a successful bluff and alternating with unsuccessful bluffs it looks like this (1 success followed by 1 fail& repeating): 105/90/95/80/85/70...etc if it works 66% (2 success followed by 1 fail & repeating)...>>105/110/95/100/105/90...etc (***still downward trend***) only at 75% success do we break even (3 success followed by 1 fail & repeating) >> 105/110/115/100/105/110/115/100...etc and of course everything +75% success is profitable but this is a stark contrast to the 50% that i see taught all over the place... so someone please tell me am i fucked up? and if so where, because i dont see it...
  • xxspaldingxx xxspaldingxx Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    16 Feb 2011 at 3:45am
    nice video phil @: ssslipnssslide : money already in the pot isn't yours anymore. you can easily see why it doesn't work the way you think it does when looking at multiway pots. the amount you put into the pot will be less, percentagewise, yet you're still risking the same to win what's already in the pot.
  • checkamat checkamat Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    16 Feb 2011 at 8:22am
    broanit I didn´t say UTG had a really tight tange preflop. It´s just that normally people don´t stack off light here. I never rarely see a guy raising utg and then 4b calling off 99 when SB 3b. And this is because sb rarely 3b an utg open, so don´t expect him to 4b bluff alot either. But sure if you 3b UTG opens alot from sb with bluffs go ahead and get 1010 in, Just watch all videos here, do you often see someone 3b 56s in sb when UTG raises? It happen,s but not often.
  • checkamat checkamat Poker Newbie
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    Re: Phil Galfond's Four Tables of HSNL (2)
    16 Feb 2011 at 8:27am
    I think you´re going to get alot of folds but when the money goes in I don´t think you´re going to be the favourite often