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Jimbozgrapes
Poker Prodigy
336 PostsGood Value bet on river?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 9 Players • PokerStars
$2.00+$0.20Converted by Bluefire Poker - Hand history Converter
MP1 2000 MP2 2000 MP3 1980 Hero (CO) 2000 BTN 6020 SB 2020 BB 2000 UTG 2000 UTG+1 2000 Effective Stacks: 99bb
Blinds 10/20
Pre-Flop (30, 9 players)
Hero is CO
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 60, 3 folds, Hero raises to 200, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls 140
Flop (430, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets 60, Hero calls 60
Turn (550, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets 80, Hero calls 80
River (710, 2 players)
Hero ??
This was a low buy-in turbo tournament and I was very much assuming everyone was a fish unless they prooved otherwise. My strategy early stages is to raise big with big hands because there are so many fish that will pay you off, hence the somewhat large 3-bet preflop. When this player raise calls my 3bet from early position I put them on a relitively tight range. This range being something like 8/8+ A/J+, and maybe some suited broadway hands or cute hands they didnt want to fold (as well as the potentially random ATC that some low buy in players do).
When he bets small into me, I read this as either the nuts trying to get some value, or a weak show down type hand. Given this, I feel flatting is the best option. The same thing on the turn. When he checks back the river in my mind I thought specifically that he had 10/10, but later I thought if he is a fishy player he could definatley be doing this with a lot of A/X type hands. Against his range, is it worth it putting in a small light value bet on the river?
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flakydorf
Poker Apprentice
228 PostsRe: Good Value bet on river?
Against this player type, I think you'd have to bet pretty small to get value from TT or JJ. Keeping in mind combinatronics though, and how many random Ax broadway and Ax suited hands he still probably doesn't fold preflop I'm not exactly thrilled here. Against a good player this is a lot more feasible, especially if the A pairs instead of the 9, but as is I think it is just too thin given how many hand combo's beat you that never fold river.
That said, I don't play many MTT's so if anybody else has a
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Jimbozgrapes
Poker Prodigy
336 PostsRe: Good Value bet on river?
Again, looking at the hand again, him raising in early position and calling a 3-bet, even if he is a bad player, only realllly horrible players are playing hands like A/little this way, and I didnt have him pegged as a absoulutly horrible player. Almost all fish are limp calling with hands like that early levels, and not raising. His flop and turn action makes me feel like his range was weighted way more towards middling pocket pairs trying to get to show down cheap then A/little hands. Same logic for me thinking he doesnt have a 9 here, he is very often limp calling most 9 combos rather then raise calling if he is a typical just 'bad" player.
I did end up betting like 200 on the river, but I won't say what he had yet till MORE THOUGHTS . nom nom
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