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Re: Fold?

Jimbozgrapes — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:06:57 -0600

<p>I have to disagree with the preflop hand selection. This is your definition trouble hand, we have to look at the playability of the hand and what we get our money in good against. I am unsure of how bad players are at 25c/50c, but if they are thinking players at all the only time we really get money in good on a flop is if we set over set someone, and there should be few hand combos of our opponents where they have pairs lower then J/J.</p>
<p>The problems with this hand is vs any legit hand ranges of our opponents we are going to be in very bad shape a lot of the time whenever the money goes in on pretty much any street, and we are also seldomely going to be in very good shape. On a flop like 9/8/K with two diamonds, what hands are really going to get the money in with us? This is close to the nut flop for us, but if we get our money in here we are almost always behind, and sometimes in really bad shape, especially to a hand like K/Q/J/10 with diamonds, where we are drawing to a 20% chop, even vs a hand like A/K/Q/3 with diamonds, we are only 25% against. Not saying that is the only hands we will ever run into, but on a dream flop we still aren't happy getting the money in vs any legit hands. After the 3-bet even on a flop like A/J/8 two tone we are usually winning a small pot or lossing a big one, and when we are getting it in it will be vs hands like broadway wraps +fd or top set, top set we are near dead, and broadway wrap +fd we are only flipping against.</p>
<p>This is a hand with very high reverse implied odds, and little playability. On any flop of 9/8/x we shouldn't be happy getting money in, the only hand we are ahead of is wraps without a flush draw. Vs an overpair, or vs a wrap with flush draw we are flipping or behind, and a big dog to overpair + fd.</p>
<p>Now, all that being said, there are a lot of fish at 25c/50c that can certainly get in a lot lighter then what i said, and that might be a good enough reason to set mine with J/J/x/x, but vs good players this IS a bad hand, and will get you in lots of trouble.</p>

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Re: Fold?

Balalajka — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 07:27:36 -0600

<p>I respect your opinion but a few things. CO is not early position so you are wrong on that. I'm pretty new to PLO but if you fold J-J-T-3SS OTB you are a huge nit imo. The raise is easy since I almost always play the hand in position when I rasie from the CO. I setmine my jacks, I have the T to go with for straight possibiliy and my jack is suited to the 3. I got great odds preflop when he raises and there is a caller, so imo my pf play is standard.</p>
<p>However putting him on a handerange there was pretty easy since he either had the nuts or nothing, therefore I wanted PLO experience players to tell me since I don't have much behind if the possibility of him bluffing there is so low that my fold actually could be justified or I without a read on a play always should call with those potodds</p>

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Re: Fold?

Jimbozgrapes — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:33:12 -0600

<p>Super easy fold preflop. That is one of the worst ohmaha hands I have ever seen. Opening this hand from early position is a serious leak, lots of players would even fold this on the BTN . That being said, as played, you only have $20 left, its $20 to win a $105 pot, the question is do you think he is bluffing here less then 1/5 of the time? You only need to be right 1/5 of the time for it to be a proper call, it would be a pretty sick bluff by him so its close, but with those pot odds and at this limit im probably calling, random fish over all probably bluff here at least 20% of the time with no reads. Im not a PLO expert, but yeah, fold this hand preflop its a very bad plo hand, and as played I think you could go either way on the river, but given the weirdness of the hand i am usually calling just because I smell BS . Very weird for him not to c-bet flop then bet small/call huge turn raise then jam, can't put him on a defined range so i call just based on the pot odds.</p>

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Fold?

Balalajka — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:34:23 -0600

<div class="hhdisplay"><h1>$0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi • 5 Players</h1>
<h2>Converted by <a href="http://www.bluefirepoker.com">Bluefire Poker</a> - Hand history Converter</h2>
      <table class="t1" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="2" border="0" >
         <tr><td>UTG</td><td><span class="bluenb">67.00</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>Arthas-91 (CO)</td><td><span class="bluenb">50.00</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>BTN</td><td><span class="bluenb">129.15</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>SB</td><td><span class="bluenb">65.85</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>BB</td><td><span class="bluenb">188.60</span></td><td></td></tr>
      </table>

<h3>Effective Stacks: 100bb</h3>
         <p><b>Pre-Flop<b> (0.75, 5 players)</p>
                        <p><b>Hero is CO</b></p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="sJ" title="sJ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sJ.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="dJ" title="dJ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dJ.gif" />
                              <img width=42 height=55 alt="d3" title="d3" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/d3.gif" />
                              <img width=42 height=55 alt="cT" title="cT" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/cT.gif" />
                </p>
            <span style="color:grey"><i>1 fold</i></span>, <span style="color:red"><b>Arthas-91 raises to 1.50</b></span>, <span style="color:grey"><i>1 fold</i></span>, <span style="color:red"><b>SB raises to 5.00</b></span>, BB calls 4.50, Arthas-91 calls 3.50
            <table width="100%">
                        </table>

               <p>Flop (15.00, 3 players)</p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="s8" title="s8" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/s8.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="hA" title="hA" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/hA.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="sK" title="sK" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sK.gif" />
</p>
SB checks, BB checks, Arthas-91 checks            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
               <p>Turn (15.00, 3 players)</p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="dQ" title="dQ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dQ.gif" />
</p>
      SB checks, BB bets 5.00, <span style="color:red"><b>Arthas-91 raises to 25.50</b></span>, <span style="color:grey"><i>SB folds</i></span>, BB calls 20.50            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
               <p>River (66.00, 2 players)</p>
            <p>
            <img width=42 height=55 alt="c8" title="c8" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/c8.gif" />
</p>
      BB bets 66.00, <span style="color:grey"><i>Arthas-91 folds</i></span>            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
            <p>Final Pot: 66.00</p>
               <p>BB wins <span class="blue" style="font-size:14px;">129.00 ( won +32.50 )</p>
               <p>Arthas-91 lost -30.50</p>
               <p>SB lost -5.00</p>
      </div><p>I had no real read on this player, 30 minutes later i noticed that he was very spewy and turned a few missed draws into bluffs. But is this a worthless fold by me considering the bet vs the money in the pot? It felt like there was not anything else he could call my turn bet with.. I thought he turned a set of queens since he called my turn raise but did not bet the flop... Thank you for your time</p>

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KK65 3ways OOP w/flush draw on wet flop

RedEye — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 06:30:18 -0600

<div class="hhdisplay"><h1>$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi • 4 Players</h1>
<h2>Converted by <a href="http://www.bluefirepoker.com">Bluefire Poker</a> - Hand history Converter</h2>
      <table class="t1" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="2" border="0" >
         <tr><td>CO</td><td><span class="bluenb">20.45</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>BTN</td><td><span class="bluenb">72.48</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>SB</td><td><span class="bluenb">12.25</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>me (BB)</td><td><span class="bluenb">34.41</span></td><td></td></tr>
      </table>

<h3>Effective Stacks: 49bb</h3>
         <p><b>Pre-Flop<b> (0.35, 4 players)</p>
                        <p><b>Hero is BB</b></p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="d6" title="d6" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/d6.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="hK" title="hK" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/hK.gif" />
                              <img width=42 height=55 alt="h5" title="h5" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/h5.gif" />
                              <img width=42 height=55 alt="sK" title="sK" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sK.gif" />
                </p>
            CO calls 0.25, <span style="color:red"><b>BTN raises to 0.90</b></span>, <span style="color:grey"><i>1 fold</i></span>, me calls 0.65, CO calls 0.65
            <table width="100%">
                        </table>

               <p>Flop (2.80, 3 players)</p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="hQ" title="hQ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/hQ.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="c2" title="c2" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/c2.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="hJ" title="hJ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/hJ.gif" />
</p>
me checks, CO bets 1.50, BTN calls 1.50, me calls 1.50            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
               <p>Turn (7.30, 3 players)</p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="c5" title="c5" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/c5.gif" />
</p>
      me checks, CO bets 4.50, BTN calls 4.50, me calls 4.50            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
               <p>River (20.80, 3 players)</p>
            <p>
            <img width=42 height=55 alt="cK" title="cK" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/cK.gif" />
</p>
      me checks, CO checks, BTN bets 9.90, <span style="color:grey"><i>me folds</i></span>, <span style="color:grey"><i>CO folds</i></span>            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
            <p>Final Pot: 20.80</p>
               <p>BTN wins <span class="blue" style="font-size:14px;">29.76 ( won +12.96 )</p>
               <p>CO lost -6.90</p>
               <p>me lost -6.90</p>
      </div><p>Pretty inexperienced PLO so spots like this with paired hand in particular are often troublesome for me. I considered leading the flop but opted against it as I didn't want to be blown off the hand by QJxx with good equity. I intended to c/c flop but after the small bet and call on the flop I consdered a c/r to fold out any AAxx type hands that are flatting due to being afraid of this flop. On the river I think his bet looked like a backdoored flush or AATx type hand so elected to fold. Thoughts?</p>

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Bad beat

Balalajka — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:55:07 -0600

<p>I don't have a question or anything for you, but just for the fun of it I wanted to share with you the worst bad beat of my life. I didn't even tilt me, I just laughed and thought it was a joke! I won the heads up match in the end though, enjoy! http://www.boomplayer.com/sv/poker-hands/Boom/2097440_3D56AC600F ;D</p>

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Re: new to plo

BuckWild — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:41:35 -0600

<p>New to PLO I would start with a lot of Jason's lower stakes PLO videos as well as all of Phil's -- although Phil's will obviously be at a much higher lever for someone new to the game.  JP and Alix also make great PLO videos as well!</p>

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new to plo

reteps — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:40:01 -0600

<p>hello i am new to the site and new to plo.  anyone have any suggestions on videos or books that i should check out.  </p>

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cant figure this out

bananaskin — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:28:52 -0600

<p>hi guys,i've been playing small stakes plo for a while now. mainly 6max and hu from time to time. but recently things have turned upside down. at the beggining i was calling and chasing every draw(like most of us did) now playing more sophisticated hands considering how loose the small stakes can be and betting hard real goods. my strategy was to bring my oponent to hu situation...but because at these stakes players dont respect raises too much ..it can be quite hard to achieve....nevertheles when i reach that moment the things every time seem to be going wrong way ..at least from my point of view. in the past 3 months i have lost 85 buyins at .05-.10 (funny money you might say) playing 100bb deep...most of the time putting my stack in the middle holding nuts and loosing to ridiculous suckouts like gutshots, bd flushes, flopped quads,  1-2outer etc(REALLY THIN DRAWS),.ppl just call with anything ( probaably thinking -its better to shove and still have a chance rather then loose whats already in) having no made hand on the flop....later when few pots like that tilt me up i start doing similar things ...pushing draws...but not weak like a gutshot or drawing to a FH holding 2mid pair...its more like a openender or a wrap with a flush draw or made straight with trips or flushdraw and that doesnt hold up or hit either...its so frustraiting as it can be...nuts never win ..big draw never hit ...and loosing allin pots to 1 or 2 outer on the river ...sometimes i just think that these stakes are good for learning basic's but they are just so loose and passive that you cant make money from it, any ideas, advice , magic formula to turn the things around, thanks and good luck</p>
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Trips turn 2nd nut boat against nitty guy

Fenris — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:29:58 -0600

<div class="hhdisplay">
<h1>$0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi • 6 Players</h1>
<h2>Converted by <a href="http://www.bluefirepoker.com">Bluefire Poker</a> - Hand history Converter</h2>
<table class="t1" border="0" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="2">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>BTN</td>
<td><span class="bluenb">72.45</span></td>
<td>�</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>me (SB)</td>
<td><span class="bluenb">58.30</span></td>
<td>�</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>BB</td>
<td><span class="bluenb">44.55</span></td>
<td>�</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>UTG</td>
<td><span class="bluenb">74.10</span></td>
<td>�</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>UTG+1</td>
<td><span class="bluenb">50.00</span></td>
<td>�</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>CO</td>
<td><span class="bluenb">65.25</span></td>
<td>�</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<h3>Effective Stacks: 89bb</h3>
<p><strong>Pre-Flop<strong> (0.75, 6 players)</strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>Hero is SB</strong></p>
<p><img title="c6" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/c6.gif" alt="c6" width="42" height="55" /><img title="cA" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/cA.gif" alt="cA" width="42" height="55" /><img title="sQ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sQ.gif" alt="sQ" width="42" height="55" /><img title="s2" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/s2.gif" alt="s2" width="42" height="55" /></p>
<span style="color:grey"><em>3 folds</em></span>, <span style="color:red"><strong>BTN raises to 1.50</strong></span>, me calls 1.25, BB calls 1.00
<p>Flop (4.50, 3 players)</p>
<p><img title="dJ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dJ.gif" alt="dJ" width="42" height="55" /><img title="cQ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/cQ.gif" alt="cQ" width="42" height="55" /><img title="dQ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dQ.gif" alt="dQ" width="42" height="55" /></p>
me checks, BB checks, BTN bets 3.00, me calls 3.00, <span style="color:grey"><em>BB folds</em></span>
<table style="width: 100%;" border="0">
</table>
<p>Turn (10.50, 2 players)</p>
<p><img title="s6" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/s6.gif" alt="s6" width="42" height="55" /></p>
me checks, BTN bets 6.50, me calls 6.50
<table style="width: 100%;" border="0">
</table>
<p>River (23.50, 2 players)</p>
<p><img title="d8" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/d8.gif" alt="d8" width="42" height="55" /></p>
me checks, BTN bets 14.50, me calls 14.50
<table style="width: 100%;" border="0">
</table>
<p>Final Pot: 52.50</p>
<p>Comments on every street are welcome, starting with the PF decision. Unsure about every single street in this hand. Will I get called by worse if I check-raise the turn? How often is my hand good on the river against such a tight PF raiser who seems kinda nitty overall? Did I play the hand too passively overall? Felt completely lost in this hand.</p>
<table style="width: 100%;" border="0">
</table>
</div>

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SSPLO HU players

z1pz0r — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 09:54:54 -0600

<p>Hi. If there is any SSPLO HU player who wanna discuss some hands, do sweat sessions etc. please send me your skype name.</p>
<p>I'm also interested to become a member of skype group if there's already one.</p>
<p>Bye</p>

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Have your PLO session reviewed

BuckWild — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:50:16 -0600

<p>Hey guys - JP is looking for some PLO footage to review for his next video series... if you want to have a session of your PLO reviewed in a video please shoot me an email at support@bluefirepoker.com and I'd be happy to help with the details!</p>

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Re: plo 6max river spot.

xXLAMBECHXx — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:27:40 -0500

<p>Thanks for sharing flomaster65.</p>
<p>I believe that a preflop 3 bet with position would have been a better play heads up. Villian can open with a wide range from the small blind. A case can be made for smooth calling preflop. But I like raising preflop.</p>
<p>On the flop, a raise to $15 by Hero puts Villian to a decision.</p>
<p>Our river bet seems too polarizing and our Villian called us with the third nuts.</p>
<p>I need to run the numbers to support the argument but imo, the river bet was not the best move.</p>
<p>Below is some numbers I ran and here are the numbers for both hands HU.</p>
<pre>cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ts Jd Th 281981 56.40 215259 43.05 2760 0.55 0.567
7c 4c Kd Td 215259 43.05 281981 56.40 2760 0.55 0.433</pre>

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Re: plo 6max river spot.

flomaster65 — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 05:57:24 -0500

<p>River I think I rep nuts pretty well. And his sizing looks not nutted. I also have blockers which is nice. Do we like a raise? What sizing should I raise to?</p>
<p>Have 150 hand on reg and look solid so far.</p>

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plo 6max river spot.

flomaster65 — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 05:55:29 -0500

<div class="hhdisplay"><h1>$0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi • 6 Players</h1>
<h2>Converted by <a href="http://www.bluefirepoker.com">Bluefire Poker</a> - Hand history Converter</h2>
      <table class="t1" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="2" border="0" >
         <tr><td>BTN</td><td><span class="bluenb">25.18</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>SB</td><td><span class="bluenb">127.06</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>me (BB)</td><td><span class="bluenb">100.00</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>UTG</td><td><span class="bluenb">305.71</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>UTG+1</td><td><span class="bluenb">109.11</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>CO</td><td><span class="bluenb">149.15</span></td><td></td></tr>
      </table>

<h3>Effective Stacks: 25bb</h3>
         <p><b>Pre-Flop<b> (1.50, 6 players)</p>
                        <p><b>Hero is BB</b></p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="dJ" title="dJ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dJ.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="sT" title="sT" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sT.gif" />
                              <img width=42 height=55 alt="hT" title="hT" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/hT.gif" />
                              <img width=42 height=55 alt="sA" title="sA" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sA.gif" />
                </p>
            <span style="color:grey"><i>4 folds</i></span>, <span style="color:red"><b>SB raises to 3.00</b></span>, me calls 2.00
            <table width="100%">
                        </table>

               <p>Flop (6.00, 2 players)</p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="h9" title="h9" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/h9.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="sJ" title="sJ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sJ.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="c3" title="c3" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/c3.gif" />
</p>
SB bets 4.27, me calls 4.27            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
               <p>Turn (14.54, 2 players)</p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="d8" title="d8" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/d8.gif" />
</p>
      SB bets 10.36, me calls 10.36            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
               <p>River (35.26, 2 players)</p>
            <p>
            <img width=42 height=55 alt="cK" title="cK" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/cK.gif" />
</p>
      SB bets 16.75, <span style="color:red"><b>me raises to 42.00</b></span>, SB calls 25.25            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
            <p>Final Pot: 119.26</p>
               <p>me shows</p>
         <p>
            <img width=42 height=55 alt="dJ" title="dJ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dJ.gif" />
            <img width=42 height=55 alt="sT" title="sT" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sT.gif" />
             <img width=42 height=55 alt="hT" title="hT" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/hT.gif" /> <img width=42 height=55 alt="sA" title="sA" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sA.gif" /> </p>
               <p>SB shows</p>
         <p>
            <img width=42 height=55 alt="c4" title="c4" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/c4.gif" />
            <img width=42 height=55 alt="c7" title="c7" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/c7.gif" />
             <img width=42 height=55 alt="dT" title="dT" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dT.gif" /> <img width=42 height=55 alt="dK" title="dK" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dK.gif" /> </p>
               <p>SB wins <span class="blue" style="font-size:14px;">116.26 ( won +56.63 )</p>
               <p>me lost -59.63</p>
      </div><p>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Party)</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">$100.00 USD PL Omaha - Monday, August 27, 12:30:57 ET 2012</div>
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<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Seat 1 is the button</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Seat 3: Hero ( $100.00 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 21, 3B: 8, AF: 3.4, Hands: 51629</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Seat 1: Player1 ( $25.18 USD ) - VPIP: 43, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 5.0, Hands: 40</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Seat 2: Player2 ( $127.06 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 5.8, Hands: 213</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Seat 5: Player5 ( $109.11 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 11, 3B: 8, AF: 3.0, Hands: 38</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Seat 4: Player4 ( $305.71 USD ) - VPIP: 11, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 28</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Seat 6: Player6 ( $149.15 USD ) - VPIP: 45, PFR: 28, 3B: 9, AF: 3.5, Hands: 2764</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player2 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Hero posts big blind [$1.00 USD].</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">** Dealing down cards **</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Dealt to Hero [ �Jd Ts Th As ]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player4 folds</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player5 folds</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player6 folds</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player1 folds</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player2 raises [$2.50 USD]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Hero calls [$2.00 USD]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, Js, 3c ]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player2 bets [$4.27 USD]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Hero calls [$4.27 USD]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player2 bets [$10.36 USD]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Hero calls [$10.36 USD]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player2 bets [$16.75 USD]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Hero raises [$42.00 USD]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player2 calls [$25.25 USD]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Hero shows [Jd, Ts Th As ]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden;">Player2 shows [4c, 7c Td Kd ]</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow: hidden; text-align: left;">dsfgfd</div>
</p>

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Coaching

doncamatic — Sun, 24 Jun 2012 02:18:36 -0500

<p>Hey I'm thinking about starting to play some PLO in addition to NL and would like a coach to help me figure it out. </p>
<p>Anyone have a reccomendation? I'm thinking small stakes 50c/$1.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>

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PLO HU HUD

PloRashaiz — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:39:54 -0500

<p>Hiya guys.. I'am a new member inhere, and newly PLO player, I've played alot of NLHE - but dicided to change my game to PLO as I find weaker players..</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My game is PLO HU 0.25/0.50..</p>
<p>What I would like to ask you regular HU PLO grinders is, which stats do you weight more? and how does your HUD looks?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Looking forward to a discussion on how important the different stats are to the game.</p>
<p>Ofc I know reads are much more important - but stats are important too </p>

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Re: Workgroup

PloRashaiz — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:23:51 -0500

<p>Have you guys startet a group so far?</p>
<p> </p>
<p>If so, is it possible to join - I've just started playing Plo50 HU, and could use a group to discuss my/their game with.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Let me know if you got any room.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>BTW I live in Denmark, so GMT +1</p>
<p> </p>

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Zoom PLO

jchadwick92 — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:03:21 -0500

<p>Hi, I was wondering if any of you guys have played much omaha on zoom and if so are there any different strategies you use? Obviously you are not playing the same opponents continuously so there must be some spots where you can really exploit them... i.e 3betting in position</p>

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Re: Workgroup

AaronPope — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:25:46 -0500

<p>Still waiting for you to get me added. I'm ready to work hard with anyone on PLO </p>

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Re: Re: plo bankroll

EZGAME — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:43:29 -0500

<p>Quite the conservative side but it isn't uncommon for huge swings in PLO so I definitely agree.</p>

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Re: Weird Spot

AaronPope — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:45:12 -0500

<p>This is the best reply I've seen in a while.</p>

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Re: plo bankroll

AaronPope — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:43:45 -0500

<p>6 MAX:</p>
<p>$100 plo - $10,000 bankroll min, prefer $15,000</p>
<p>$200 plo - $20,000 bankroll min, prefer $35,000</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Heads up:</p>
<p>about the same</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The real key is not tilting on your 40 buyin downswings and not thinking you're God on the 60 buyin upswings.  The swings are crazy, and I personally have a 150 buyin rule of thumb for myself so that I don't get depresseda bout losing 1/2 my roll.</p>
<p> </p>

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plo bankroll

nerdofnerds — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 01:27:54 -0600

<p>can someone tell me what the proper bankroll is for 1oo buy in and 200 buy in plo 6max? please aslo tell me bankroll needed for hu.</p>
<p>thank you</p>

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Re: Can this ever be a bluff??

JPZdancewicz — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:49:47 -0600

<p>I guessssss he could potentially value-jam AAQx but it really doesn't make much sense to get there with that hand or anything else that could jam for value that is worse than us. Pretty retarded spot to turn anything into a bluff so I would think a fold is correct. With all that said I can definitely see a bad reg jamming QQxx as a bluff some small % of the time(which is obv awful).</p>

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Re: Can this ever be a bluff??

moneyman — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:05:25 -0600

<p>Of course it CAN be a bluff, but not sure what good of a call this is... look forward to hearing answers from more PLO focused players</p>

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Re: Can this ever be a bluff??

plololol — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:49:36 -0600

<p>Meh, disciplined fold but I am too much of a station to make it in your shoes. </p>

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Can this ever be a bluff??

Earl_Shriner — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:30:10 -0600

<div class="hhdisplay"><h1>$0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi • 5 Players</h1>
<h2>Converted by <a href="http://www.bluefirepoker.com">Bluefire Poker</a> - Hand history Converter</h2>
      <table class="t1" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="2" border="0" >
         <tr><td>BB</td><td><span class="bluenb">67.83</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>UTG+1</td><td><span class="bluenb">99.60</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>MP</td><td><span class="bluenb">72.98</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>CO</td><td><span class="bluenb">84.31</span></td><td></td></tr>
         <tr><td>BTN</td><td><span class="bluenb">38.31</span></td><td></td></tr>
      </table>

<h3>Effective Stacks: 77bb</h3>
         <p><b>Pre-Flop<b> (1.00, 5 players)</p>
                        <p><b>Hero is </b></p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="s6" title="s6" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/s6.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="cK" title="cK" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/cK.gif" />
                              <img width=42 height=55 alt="c7" title="c7" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/c7.gif" />
                              <img width=42 height=55 alt="hK" title="hK" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/hK.gif" />
                </p>
                        [me posts 0.50]
         <span style="color:grey"><i>3 folds</i></span>, BTN calls 0.50, BB checks, <span style="color:red"><b>me raises to 2.00</b></span>, BTN calls 1.50, BB calls 1.50
            <table width="100%">
                        </table>

               <p>Flop (6.00, 2 players)</p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="sT" title="sT" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sT.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="hT" title="hT" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/hT.gif" />
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="sK" title="sK" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/sK.gif" />
</p>
BB checks, me bets 3.00, <span style="color:grey"><i>BTN folds</i></span>, BB calls 3.00            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
               <p>Turn (12.00, 1 players)</p>
            <p>
               <img width=42 height=55 alt="dJ" title="dJ" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dJ.gif" />
</p>
      BB checks, me bets 6.00, BB calls 6.00            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
               <p>River (24.00, 1 players)</p>
            <p>
            <img width=42 height=55 alt="dT" title="dT" src="http://weaktight.com/img/d5/dT.gif" />
</p>
      BB bets 24.00, <span style="color:grey"><i>me folds</i></span>            <table width="100%">
                        </table>
            <p>Final Pot: 48.00</p>
               <p>BB wins <span class="blue" style="font-size:14px;">46.80 ( won +11.80 )</p>
               <p>me lost -11.00</p>
               <p>BTN lost -2.00</p>
      </div><p><span style="font-family: arial, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: #f5f5ff;">The Button is loose/passiv (Agg.Factor 1,2), and the SB is some kind of slightly losing Reg.</span><br style="font-family: arial, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: #f5f5ff;" /><span style="font-family: arial, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: #f5f5ff;">Haven�t seen anything strange so far from him.</span></p>

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Re: Workgroup

sefrin — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:50:29 -0600

<p>okay add me on Skype Aaronpope </p>
<p>usernamn: henriksvan</p>

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Re: Workgroup

AaronPope — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:21:41 -0600

<p>I'm interested and can be flexible on times, but I am in the US.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>

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