Willdonkeyy Poker Newbie
1st villain is a short stack - 59/15 out of 112 hands. - not worried about this villain so much
2nd villain 29/6 Out of 109 hands
AF - 67% 6.2 - Flop 68% Turn 73% River 60%
I haven't play much pot with 2nd villain so much, therefore I do not have much knowledge about villain playing style.
After the hand, I reviewed his stats, it turns out that he is playing semi loose, very passive preflop but very aggressive post flop.
I couldn't really put villain on a proper hand.
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
BB: $50.90 (101.8 bb)
UTG: $17.15 (34.3 bb)
MP: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $60.10 (120.2 bb)
BTN: $52.65 (105.3 bb)
SB: $191.50 (383 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with T A
UTG raises to $1.75, MP folds, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25
Flop: ($5.50) J A 3 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50, BB raises to $15, UTG raises to $15.40 and is all-in, Hero calls $9.90, BB calls $0.40
Turn: ($51.70) 3 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
BB bets $10
Results: $51.70 pot
Final Board: J A 3 3
Preflop - Standard call against loose passive fish
FLop - I called the c-bet believeing my hand is best and trying to induce more bluff from short stack villain.
Unexpected raise by villain 2.
Villain raising range:
AA,JJ --> unlikely, because I expect him to raise preflop.
AJ, J3, 33, A3
Probably I made a bad call on the flop. I made the call because its a dry board and I thought it will be to tight for me to fold in situation like this.
I know that under normal circumstances I do not beat that many hands, I only beat lower Ax and Pair J.
However Villain 1 is very loose, station, and a short stack, I thought that Villain 2 could raise with most Ax here because of villain tendencies to just call any bet with any pair or random gut shot.
Turn - On the turn, I don't put villain on AQ, AK because of no 3 bet preflop v station short stack fish.
Villain bet $10 into $50 pot:
- He may be value betting me with a really good hand, so that he could get the right amount to shove on the river.
- He is defensive betting with small Ax or worse.
1. Looking at villain #2. He tends to play very passively preflop. Is it possible to put him on AK? Maybe AQ AJ is morel likely? Even though there is no 3 bet preflop with fish open UTG and a caller.
2. What do you think is the best play? Call ? Do I call river bet? If he bet teh river i think it is more likely to be a shove.
Is Raising even an option here???
IrwinFletcher Poker Newbie
"1st villain is a short stack - 59/15 out of 112 hands. - not worried about this villain so much"
The above statement is the biggest mistake in the hand in my opinion. I think that I would approach this hand differently in several locations. The first spot being the preflop call. The under the gun player is a loose passive short stack who is raising only 15% of his hands. This range may be even tighter in first position. ATo is not going to play well against this range. I would fold preflop. I would also argue that if you think you are ahead that you should 3-bet against a player with a 30bb stack.
If I wasn't paying any attention and made it to the flop. I would probably fold when the passive player makes a pot size continuation bet. There are no hands in the villain's (#1) preflop raising range that make a continuation bet on this board that you are ahead of. If by chance I decided that there was too much in the pot already to fold my top pair, I would certainly muck when the player in the blinds decides to raise into 2 players with likely near zero fold equity.
DanishDonk Poker Newbie
I agree completely with Irwin.
But I understand why you want to play AT versus the loose player though, so I think seing a flop is actually fine considering how impatient the player is.