2/4 bottom set 150x in 3bet pot » Mid-High Stakes Plo Discussion

 Your PF open is kinda loose.  Also that hand is pretty awful in 3b pots.  I would fold that hand to a 3b if it was HU.  Since its probably gonna be multiway calling is okay i suppose.  

Post flop I think you just have to go with, although im not too excited about it.  Also I disagree with him not betting AKxx hands or draws on this flop.  Players almost always CB Ahi flops after 3betting because they get folds so often.

Check calling can have some merit as some players will fire alot of turns since your check calling is most always Axxx or some sort of draws.  Alot of stuff you will fold a turn bet to.

EDIT: i just realized it was double suited,  your hand.  PF is okay then although it still plays bad in 3b pots. 

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DonNguyen wrote:

 preflop is fine.

I'd get it in on flop.

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If the hand is only single suited do you still raise?  The top gap is bad and we'd rather have the pair at the bottom of the hand, IIRC.

As for the flop, I don't think we can fold here even though we are a bit deep.  At least you have a gutterball and two backdoor flush draws in the case that you got over-set here.

I think this hand is definitely strong enough to open and call the three bet.  I think I might wait until and unless I pick up a backdoor spade or club on the turn to get it in though.  I'm not sure your hand is strong enough to get it in now.

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DonNguyen wrote:

 If Zakharka has

1/3 = AAxx

1/3= wrap

1/3=hands he bet/folds

The ev respectively, would be -432.6/+157.8/+308 in which we make $33.2 on avg by jamming flop or 8.3 big blinds.  I actually think the ev is a bit higher because he's bet/calling with all A10x combos and some AKQx type hands which we are doing very well against.  I left them out for simplicity and the possibility that AAxx might comprise a higher % than 1/3.

But, the fact that we occasionally fold on the turn incorrectly/don't get to control the free card/let a hand like J910x/987x see a turn and realize partial equity (when it would bet/fold flop), I think jamming flop is fine even though we only have 15% against top set.

I'd be more inclined to flat in a single raised pot with 100bb starting, rather than 4.22x pot left in this spot.

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Such a great point. Do you coach pot limit omaha?