Please help. » Micro Stakes No Limit Discussion

  • Kombaiyashii Kombaiyashii Poker Newbie
    14 Posts
    Please help.
    29 Jun 2012 at 1:35pm

    I ground up 2nl pretty easily at about 18bb/100 over about 10,000 hands.

    I then ground up 5nl and went up a stake to 10nl and really got hammered, so I went back down to 5 and ground up again...My total 5nl stat is about 10bb/100 over 24,000 hands.

    Now again straight after I ground up 5nl I'm getting absolutely hammered again. I'm currently -4.4bb/100 over 19,000 hands at 10nl...

    This seems really ridiculously hard. I've never table selected so well before and I can't imagine that these players are much better than those at 5nl...

     

    I've been looking through HM and found that my W$SD% is about 57% whereas at the other stakes which I crushed, it was 52.4% I heard someone say that good hand readers have quite a low W$SD% because they are being given good odds to call down and see the showdown...

    My non showdown winnings have plummeted from about -9bb/100 at the other stakes to -16.92bb/100 at 10nl.

    Could this be the leak that I am looking for? How best would it be for me to tackle it?

  • Sonandres Sonandres Poker Newbie
    44 Posts
    Re: Please help.
    29 Jun 2012 at 4:59pm

    Play solid poker.... i dont think that the level changes between NL5 or NL10...

     

    Reduce the number of tables that you play and try to discover the range from your opponents...

     

    GL 

  • EZGAME EZGAME Poker Trainee
    116 Posts
    Re: Please help.
    3 Jul 2012 at 2:29pm

    5NL and 10NL shouldn't account for huge discrepancys in win rates.  More than anything the change is probably due to variance and sample size.  Keep focused and keep doing what makes you successful.

  • skeeter skeeter Poker Newbie
    1 Posts
    Re: Please help.
    6 Jul 2012 at 5:40pm

    id be interested to see river call efficency % between the stakes

     

  • AJackson AJackson Bluefire Pro Poker Pro
    415 Posts
    Re: Please help.
    21 Jul 2012 at 12:00pm

    It's really difficult to say much without taking a deep look and having well over 50K hands at each stake.  I'd look for differences in cbet success stats, wwsf, wtsd, w@sd, 3B success to see if your opponents are playing you differently.  You could also look at your general stats and see if you are playing differently.  For example, are you stacking of significantly lighter because you perceive the games to be tougher?

    If we go straight probability, it's just variance.  There simply isn't much of a difference in play at those two stakes.  Your 5NL win rate is likely too high considering you're probably paying 11-12bb/100 in rake.

     

    What I would suggest is continuing trying to move up.  I suggest taking limited mid month shots when you are up.  This way you don't destroy a winning month and puts you in the best possible mental position to succeed.  Try to get minimum 50K hands at 10NL before you really start worrying about how your results are different.