[NL400 6max] crazy fold ? » Medium Stakes No Limit Discussion

  • Ninja666 Ninja666 Poker Newbie
    5 Posts
    [NL400 6max] crazy fold ?
    18 Mar 2010 at 1:35pm

     Hello,

    after watching a video about folding http://www.bluefirepoker.com/video/know-when-to-foldem.aspx i played hand in a different way than i used to.

    Opp 23/17/1 over 37 hands and i dont have any reads about him.

    Grabbed by Holdem Manager

    NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer 

    SB ($400)

    BB ($400)

    CO ($600)

    Hero ($394)

    Dealt to Hero K:spade: Q:spade: 

    CO raises to $12, Hero calls $12, fold, BB calls $8

    FLOP ($38) 8:club: Q:diamond: 2:spade: 

    BB bets $23, CO folds, Hero calls $23

    TURN ($84) 8:club: Q:diamond: 2:spade: 6:spade: 

    BB checks, Hero bets $55, BB calls $55

    RIVER ($194) 8:club: Q:diamond: 2:spade: 6:spade: 8:heart: 

    BB bets $110, Hero folds

    BB wins $192

     

    Opp just called pre and now we r in multiway pot. In absolutely blank  flop he leads. There is no reason to do it, but i would expext him to do it with:

    Qx, 8x (78s, 89s), 2x (23s, A2s) and maybe sets ?

    i call and on a turn i expect him to proceed with flush or other draws and some Qx, maybe c/c some Qx and giveup all other hands. He check/calls when i bet.

    And now he leads into the river! What a hell it could be?

    there is two options - it is a bluff or it is a value bet. I can't c any bluff with a such strange line so it should be value bet:

    78ss, 89ss, 

    AQ, KQ

     

    So i'm quite bad against his value range, right?

    What do u think about my fold?

     

  • scarface23 scarface23 Poker Newbie
    27 Posts
    Re: [NL400 6max] crazy fold ?
    22 Mar 2010 at 7:50am

    I wouldn´t expect most players to c/c the turn with a 8 (unless he´s picked up the flushdraw as well), but these are very few combos. sets are definitely possible but also very unlikly handcombo wise.

    the main reason to fold here is that you hand looks exactly like what it is. and no thinking player would try to bluff against this (this is even more true when he don´t knows you).

    so if he never bluffs, his bet is always a valuebet, and valuebets are boats, 8x, AQ probably, KQ is probably already too thin in his spot OOP

     

    like that fold;)