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coolrunnings77
Poker Newbie
320 PostsHow do I play my draw deep?
Full Tilt Poker NL Hold'em - $2/$4 Ring (5 handed)
Starting Stacks:
Seat 1: BB ($961.80)
Seat 2: UTG ($352)
Seat 4: CO ($400)
Seat 5: BTN ($406)
Seat 6: SB (Hero) ($827)
Preflop: Hero is SB with
3 folds, Hero raises $12, BB raises $36, Hero calls $24
Flop: ($72) - 2 players
Hero checks, BB bets $36, Hero calls $36This guy 3b's 9%. I have called 3b's in the past and lead into him on rags. He folded. Im unsure of how aggressively to play this ahnd deep.
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DonC33
Poker Newbie
2 PostsRe: How do I play my draw deep?
I don't think you can get too aggressive here at all considering if the turn bricks theres really not much you can represent here with a check - call in that spot. I don't know much about poker tracker stats as I don't yet use any stats software but a guess would bet that 9% 3bet would include some non premium junky hands specially in blind battles (wonder how many times you'd raised his BB already). His range is huge here with nearly all pocket pairs, premiums and draws. If I hit one of my pairs on turn I'd be checking for pot controll and to get value from small pocket pairs and missed draws. If I hit the flush I think i'm betting a bit under half pot and folding to a reraise.
I don't like the check call on the flop it leaves you in a horrible position with your hand pretty much face up. I like leading into this specially since his range is huge and he has folded to this previously. If he re-raises I'm not that bothered about calling/shoving in alot of spots and if he just calls you've got a good grip on his range. I think the villians C-bet seems pretty small also, i'm not sure what
this means but that would make a check-raise look pretty tempting to me.Check raise 100bb deep is obviously best against nearly all oppenents but 200bb deep if he c-bets that small I think its very just a fold if he shoves on your check-raise but thats if you expect him to cbet that small with the goods or whether your bothered about folding. If not than I mite still go for the checkraise.
Anybody else got a clear preference.
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NimanKenkre
Bluefire Pro
Poker Pro
1191 PostsRe: How do I play my draw deep?
I think your line is fine, because your hand looks very much like a medium pocket pair here. If the turn bricks and he checks back, you can lead the river and he will fold out his missed overs a lot of the time. If you hit a king or a queen on the turn - those are the very cards that he would likely barrell you, so you'd have an excellent bluff catcher. And if you hit a diamond, you can lead right into him, since your hand looks more like a medium pocket - with you "using the flush card" to turn it into a bluff: I doubt he'd fold a big pair in that instance.
Check calling oop with draws - esp on paired boards is usually a terrible idea, but here it can work well, simply because your hand looks very different (medium pocket pair) than what it really is, and you'd be able to use that to your advantage.
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hawk51
Poker Newbie
10 PostsRe: How do I play my draw deep?
Raising this flop is bad, i am assuming he thinks that you would 4 bet aa/kk a lot given how deep you are, and probably qq too, so if you were to raise you would be repping nothing. Doing that with 99/100 or whatever is overrepping your hand. Its blind on blind as welll so no one ever beleives anything lol...
Your hand does look like a medium pocket pair when you check call out of position he wont put you on overcards ever and even though raising with the fd is kinda bad, in his mind im sure if a diamond hits, he will have at least a littlllle bit of trouble beleiving you. So when you check he has to give you credit for a pair, and if you hit your diamonds you are going to almost always be good, and if you hit your k or q those are both great cards to let villian barrell and call down. If it goes check check on the turn, you can half pot to 60 percent and he will fold a lot
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